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I just blanked a page. Me. Ew. What's the new standard for this sort of thing? I couldn't just revert it - the first edit was a bad category addition, so that wasn't going to work. Rari 15:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Deletion is probably appropriate for that article. Give it a while! -Tyrsell 15:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Are we still using delete tags? If I have to tell you every time something like this happens, you'll need another talk page really fast :P Rari 15:53, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

You didn't quite get it... look at your tabs up top ;p and congratz, its overdue. -Tyrsell 15:56, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

*happy sounds*

Sort Tables

Psst, Tyrsell. Listitem SpelTest? The world needs more sort tables? Rari 19:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Spell Name Level Type Target
Spell: Strengthen 1 Buff Single
Spell: Weaken 1 Debuff Single
Spell: True North 1 Locating Self
Spell: Gate 2 Transport Self
Spell: Invisibility 2 Invisibility Single
Spell: Tashan 2 Debuff Single
Spell: Gift of Magic 34 Buff Single

Your concepts frighten and intrigue me... lets see what I can hack up.-Tyrsell 19:20, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Can't wait to see what you come up with. I'm playing around with some other really neat ideas, but . . . is there any chance at getting some extensions installed? I've gotten spoiled by having more toys. (Now that we're on the official server, I don't know what's the what on that issue) Rari

We certainly can. Have any in mind? -Tyrsell 01:37, 10 March 2009 (UTC) :Off the top of my head, this this this this and this. I'm not super-crazy with any of them, but I'm familiar with some of what you can do. We're talking item template time. The stuff we couldn't do before. Assuming I didn't forget anything vital. :P Rari 02:09, 10 March 2009 (UTC) - Wold is on it Rari 18:46, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

DoT page = fun + function!! Rari 18:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Also, $wgNamespacesWithSubpages[0] = true needs to be changed in the LocalSettings.php. (It seems to be set to false currently) Sometimes I just want simple things :P Rari 06:36, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Zone Page

Take a look at this when you have a chance and give me some feedback? Be sure to click "edit" - Psueo-protected Zone Page test. Last night I was subpaging the transculsions, to make standardizing the formatting and categorization easier, and found even more "messes" to clean up along the way. Even if people still throw crap onto this sort of page, it'd be easy to see at least. - Rari 15:11, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Bot account

Could you flag the Rari (testbot) account as a bot, so its edits are hidden by default? I burn recent changes too fast with it.

Done and done, edit away, and hopefully the future edits won't show. -Tyrsell 02:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Miitru is a hero

Special:Version, external images from shards (aka, the fomelo images) will now be processed AS images, and subpages will function properly. Just wanted to keep you updated. - Rari Talk 01:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh great! Those stupid links were pissing me off. -Tyrsell 01:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Raid Tiers

Want me to add Raid Tier as part of the NPC template, now that it can handle unused parameters? - Rari Talk 00:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Ya know what, why not. More information the better. -Tyrsell 16:30, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


^Needs to be split for multizone, I'm thinking. Any issue with that? Can you think of anywhere else? - Rari Talk 16:15, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Cmal is large and diverse enough to warrant it being split to multi zone. -Tyrsell 16:29, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Image finder

Miitru hooked me up with a page for finding the images for the template - if you want me to hook you up, get on IRC sometime? - Rari Talk 15:04, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


Its quite silly, but DPL has a HUGE issue with not recognizing redirects. The items will need to be linked directly to the effect. So, linking to Spell: Bladecoat would work, but just Bladecoat wouldn't. Extra fun part is with the autolinking, you can't do a regular pipelink. The trick is going to be {{!}} instead of a pipe, so Spell: Bladecoat|Bladecoat WOULD work, and would display as just Bladecoat (I'm using Bladecoat as an example, because I just fixed those.) - Rari Talk 10:38, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Can you look at this?

Hooch left me a comment you'd be better at handling. User_talk:Rari#About_spells - Rari Talk 16:20, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Alter Plane:Fire

Thazeran's Planeshift? - Rari Talk 09:43, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Thats wrong info as far as I know. I'll put in the usual stuff for it. -Tyrsell 12:25, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


Its the place to be. - Rari Talk 15:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Can't log on from work =( -Tyrsell 15:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Aww. Well, can't blame me for trying. I'm getting ripped a new one for the CMal page now anyway, so probably better you're not around :P - Rari Talk 15:20, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm almost afraid to ask why... page is certainly no less usable than it was. I guess change is bad mmkay! -Tyrsell 15:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, so far everyone loves all of the new changes except their personal "one thing" that I need to fix because oh my god, what was I thinking?! - Rari Talk 15:30, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Look left

Did a little edit in the mediawiki files. "Create new article" :D - Rari Talk 02:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Spell template suggestion

Can I get your input on this discussion? - Rari Talk 03:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Uploading Images

Hello Tyrsell. I'm wondering, how can we get permission to upload screenshots to this wiki? I've been taking some with hopes of beautifying some of the pages here but seem not to be able to upload them. In fact, when I try clicking the "Upload file" link in the toolbox, I get a "Permission error," which says that "The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups Sysops, uploadaccess." I see that you are able to upload screenies, so I was hoping you might be able to give advice. Thanks!--Gnomish 00:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Huh. Didn't realize there was a specific group for that. We have no guidelines for that at the moment, so until we do, you'll just have to request it from me or another OP. As I take this to be such a request, I'll add you to the group. Obviously don't abuse the privilege. -Tyrsell 13:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance, Tyrsell. I'm enjoying sprucing up some of the pages! If you have any suggestions, let me know. Also, I'm thinking if this starts to become a popular practice, there should besome guidelines to make sure people don't upload screenshots of themselves just for some cheap fame or other ignoble reasons. I've gone ahead and removed PC names and sometimes NPC names from my screenies, which I think might be a good idea for any future uploaders. I'm no admin or anything though, so these are just some humble ideas. :)--Gnomish 20:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it took several days and some serious Rari-ing (can I be a verb?) before Wold and Miitru agreed that sysops should be able to add images for the sake of maps and such. I'd say the issue should be run by them if you want to allow certain people the privilege, otherwise people could always link the image on the talk page of a given page under the heading ==image== OR we could make a specific page for image upload requests, where a linked image and a wiki-link to a specific page could be given. Either way, I'll try to make a page laying out the use of templates/categories for images, because like regular articles, they should also be organized (there hasn't been a lot of organization done so far with them, because we've only had a few.) If you could talk to the people what needs talking to and let me know the plan, I can try and do the wikifying?- Rari Talk 01:16, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, any new screenshots should be added with the Category:Screenshots at the bottom of the description. It would also be awesome if the image name could of any new screenshots could start with SS (so like File:SS Zae.jpg). I've added parameters to zone infoboxes to handle images as well (they can technically now handle THREE images, but one should do for now eh?) but I haven't written up any documentation for it yet. Just check out Greater Faydark/Zone Infobox for an example. Images used in the infoboxes must be resized at 256px (like in that example), and images elsewhere shouldn't exceed 400px. Otherwise, they're just too big. These screenies are hotness, thanks Gnomish <3. - Rari Talk 09:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk page blanking

I'm getting seriously sick of people doing that. I don't get it. Archive it if your talk page is getting too long or out of date, sure. But I don't get blanking. - Rari Talk 03:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Eh, on the same token your user page is probably the 1 part of the wiki you can mess with as you see fit. Can't really enforce rulings on it. Unless your talking about talk pages that aren't also user pages... thats an issue.-Tyrsell 12:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

No, I mean User talk pages, but the last few people I've left messages to have blanked their pages, or just replaced my comments with rude shit like "Don't leave me messages". I just don't get it - the whole point of talk pages is talking, so what's the point of blanking them? It just means I have to shuffle through the talk page history before I can leave a comment, to make sure I'm not repeating myself. - Rari Talk 22:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Little edit to Spellstable results in. . .

Category:Spells sorted by skill - Rari Talk 01:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Made spell changes tonight

Just wanted to let you know, since you usually keep an eye on the spells, I'm not linking Spell line in the article because I'm going to make it auto-link from the template so we can use it for categorizing later. - Rari Talk 09:41, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, can you get me a gem color for Spell: Succussion of Shadows and the like - the 'Single, Group' target doesn't have a color in my switch yet, so they're just white in the table =( - Rari Talk 11:12, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


Do you think it would be possible to get iconids using your wiki spell parser? I did the first 56 levels on Necromancer spells out of my tome, but I don't have the resources to do more right now. Wold suggested trying to find a way to dig out the iconid, if possible, but the link to maimai's parser is dead, and Kobex's doesn't have the info. - Rari Talk 08:47, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do about that. I want to write up a good spell extractor that'll automatically update the spell pages when they update, but time is hard to find some days.-Tyrsell 15:02, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Domdakken's question

Domdakken had a question for you. He put it on his talk page. It's a spell effect thing, so I told him in IRC that you'd be better able to answer it than I would. See User talk:Domdakken when you get a chance, eh? - Rari Talk 20:25, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


I know you've noticed it, just wanted to tell you wtf the done template is for. I'm using it to mark any equip that doesn't have recommended level - purely a way to tell my bot that I'm "done" with those pages. I'll pry it off everything once I'm finished but for now, yeah, that's what it is. If anything is added w/o it, my bot'll sort through it on the next pass for now. - Rari Talk 18:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I was curious actually, but apparently not curious enough to ask. Figured you had some plan in mind. Thanks for the info! -Tyrsell 19:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm teaching Juff my AWB voodoo for this project - is it alright if I set him up with a bot account like mine, so we're not ripping up the recent changes? - Rari Talk 05:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Please do. -Tyrsell 14:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


You pinged out of IRC, goofball. Spell: Vampiric Spirit Recourse vs Vampiric Spirit Recourse (Ok, bad example, but the point remains the same that the Effects didn't have 'Spell' previously. It's fine if they do, it's just that the existing pages are going to make matters complicated.) - might need to move everything in Category:Effects and Category:Item Effects to Spell: Name first? Otherwise we're going to lose all of the notes on them, and have a bunch of doubles.

Also, can you please take [[Category:Spells]] off? I can clear it on the ones that have already been done with my bot, np.

Skill: 1H Blunt and Tiger Claw/Instantaneous for Unknown are being used again, but again, this is easily fixed with my bot. Just mentioning it. - Rari Talk 07:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)