User talk:Marthog

Admin powers

Giving you admin powers; if you have any questions, feel free to hit up my talk page. - Rari Talk 18:25, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

Taryth's Little Helper

What's going on with this NPC? He's listed as dropping a million platinum and a GM-Only itm as loot? - Rari Talk 12:14, 15 October 2017 (EDT)

Oh he was just a joke page I made for Taryth while fixing a lot of wiki stuff in NWOT, since his helper NPC is a temp NPC and also deathtouches. I'll go edit it to only include it's in-game function.

Premature Edits

Why is it that you feel the need to police grace periods on new zones and make sure everything is prim and proper when it comes to everything regarding our content and items you have no idea about, yet when something new drops for you it doesn't see the Wiki until someone else does it? We've documented everything regarding new content the SECOND it drops. There was a reason we didn't upload specific items last night and that's because they don't exist. They only exist on Fomelo. Please just stay in your realm. Emzur Talk 10:03, 20 March 2019 (EDT)

I feel like the answer to your question would be evident if you didn't take wiki edits so personally. The wiki is for everyone, there are no 'realms'. I understand that you feel attacked by wiki edits but the very first note at the bottom of every edit page is a note warning against taking things personally on the wiki. If this remains an issue for you, please stop editing the wiki. Any edits of your content have not been motivated by vendettas or personal issues. I know that context on the wiki, even on edit summaries, is sparse so I will try to state it here as plainly and thoroughly as I can; The wiki is for everyone and edits that I make are not meant by me in anyway to be directed at an individual. To answer your question though, it's a matter of having information at hand. If there is something I found or wish to document on the wiki I put it in a queue of documented info that I keep on my personal computer and upload as I can. Having all the information at hand I can edit at my own leisure in my own way. Such is the right of anyone on the wiki. If I find an item on fomelo, then I only have that to go on and a simple fomelo2wiki later and I've edited as much as I can. So it really comes down to information available and timing as opposed to anything else. The reason such things as grace periods are enforced is because there is a rule or reason to enforce them. There is nothing forcing you to upload new items you may find immediately and nothing forcing me to upload anything I may find immediately. I have a long list of articles I wish to edit and create and a rough order in which I wish to them. I understand that none of that is evident on the wiki itself, but again I'll take this opportunity to explain it. The wonderful thing about the wiki is that it can always be edited. If there is an incident like this in the future there is no need to get upset over it, just edit the articles as best you can, and if you feel the need to justify further there are always edit summaries and discussion pages for every article that you can respectfully explain your edits within. I hope this clears up the issue. Marthog (talk) 10:47, 20 March 2019 (EDT)

Wasn't personal for me, no need for word salad. Just find it severely redundant to undo someone's edit who has full knowledge of the item, where it dropped, and had spoken to the dev who made the item personally about its state in the game. Why not just take my suggestion? The items do not exist in the game, and only on Fomelo. That's all thanks. Emzur (Talk) 10:58, 20 March 2019 (EDT)

What you edited was incorrect, both in your treatment of the tags and in the reality of the situation. So I feel justified in my stance on the situation. I discussed the issue with Kedrin and ultimately his judgement on deleting the entries is the most correct method. If you are unsure about how to appropriately use certain functions on the wiki please refer to the community portal or ask a wiki admin. Thanks. Marthog (talk) 11:18, 20 March 2019 (EDT)

We wouldn't be here if what you edited hadn't been incorrect. I fail to see your point, but if I could've deleted your pages off the bat I would have. Having power must be so exhilarating! I can't imagine the rush you must get. Emzur (talk) 11:39, 20 March 2019 (EDT)

What I put in was put there to the best of my knowledge using the tools available. I'm not sure why that would be held against anyone. Again, you seem to lack knowledge of appropriate wiki tags. It is true that only admins have the power to directly delete a page but every wiki user has access to the tag 'Deleteflag' which would cue in to a admin to remove the page if that was the appropriate action. Once again I would like to direct you to the Community Portal and the Policy section of the wiki. Please stop making this a personal thing and be more respectful. This has been a recurring issue for you. Marthog (talk) 11:56, 20 March 2019 (EDT)

Seasonal Loot

I just wanted to let you know I added a unique source, Season2, for use with Torment of Marlow drops. - Rari Talk 17:06, 2 January 2022 (EST)

• I saw that, thanks. Marthog (talk) 19:10, 2 January 2022 (EST)

Pazms

Just making sure there's no double standard here and that you won't be editing your personal talk page either because I'm leaving a sig. Thanks for the consistency. Do you play this game anymore? Melodico (talk) 10:26, 3 April 2024 (EDT)

Ah, I think there is some confusion, the issue is not the signatures it's that there is a rule about removing content from any talk page. Found in the content removal section of the policy page "Users should not remove comments (wholly or partially) from any talk page, with the following exceptions: " it then goes on to list some exceptions which are mostly about malicious edits. I do indeed play this game still but I have recently had two children, so my playtime is significantly reduced. Marthog (talk) 15:47, 3 April 2024 (EDT)

Interesting that you are very concerned with enforcing the rules on a wikipedia, but when I send you tells about your guild member blatantly breaking rules in game, you can't be bothered with such trivialities. The library's looking dusty, book keeper. Melodico (talk) 09:20, 4 April 2024 (EDT)

Firstly, I'm an admin on the wiki, so it is my job to monitor content and enforce policy when necessary. Secondly, I recall telling you that I don't think you were correct about the rules being broken in the instance you are referring to. Further I am not another player's boss to force them to do anything, I did request that they figure something out though. Finally if you are comparing privileges this is an argument for a GM/staff, not for another player.

Final Warnings

Or what? You're going to suspend me from the wiki? Ok, down to 4 active editors. How's that Nationalist isolationism coming in a dying game? Melodico (talk) 16:42, 4 April 2024 (EDT)

A Question of Nationalism

Please review these signs and symptoms of nationalism, and then consider who, if any, groups in our current playerbase that this reminds you of. Interested to hear your thoughts.

NATIONALISM

Politically, nationalists strive to protect the nation's sovereignty, the right to govern itself. Nationalists’ feelings of superiority are usually based on shared ethnicity, language, religion, culture, or social values. Extreme nationalists believe that their country has the right to dominate other nations through military aggression if necessary. The ideologies of nationalism are contrary to those of globalism and the modern globalization movement. Economic nationalism strives to protect a nation’s economy from foreign competition, often through the practice of protectionism. Carried to its extremes, nationalism can lead to authoritarianism and the exclusion from the society of certain ethnic or racial groups.

We can revisit this convo tomorrow Melodico (talk) 10:55, 5 April 2024 (EDT)